![]() It doesn't matter if you are persuaded, as long as you get the message that you have no choice but to comply, and look, everyone else is complying! Thousands of gymnasts and marchers in perfect lockstep. It's about psychological domination, with heroic poses and strong simple messages emphasising the inevitability and necessity of party control. Soviet and Chinese propaganda, at least the types you're taking about, persuade by projecting power. Also it competes in a market for ideas and so there's a degree of selective pressure to improve so you're quite right it has become quite sophisticated whereas authoritarian propaganda can rely on excluding dissenting voices. Nobody has to comply, and dissenting voices and alternative narratives are available. It has to be persuasive because the targets can choose whether they believe it or not. The primary means western propaganda uses is to persuade. They are both highly effective, but at different things. I think that's based on a misunderstanding of what these two approaches to propaganda are trying to do. But its a different problem than you imagine, and you will recoil from the things that are required to succeed. I'm not really qualified to elaborate on the topic of changing power structures (in essence: of the problem of governance), so I'll just stop here. Changing the system so that the resulting forces will produce different outcomes. What you probably have in mind is to have a civilized discussion among reasonable people and thus determine the best overall outcome for the best of all of society. ![]() > can learn how to change them so that we will have less "enemies" in the future This is a good starting point, but it is just that - a starting point. I suspect you are in your rationalist phase right now, given the Scott Alexander link in your bio. > I am not a fan of calling people "enemies" I prefer to look at their incentives and context If your point was about the generic usefulness of import taxes, then I have misunderstood you, no objections there. ![]() I mean that this is the reason why import taxes exists ![]()
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